Comments on: Ghost Adventures – Pennhurst State School and Hospital http://www.rottenworks.com/index.php/2009/11/11/ghost-adventures-pennhurst-state-school-and-hospital/ Flaming pumpkins and paranormal investigations Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:41:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: RottenOne http://www.rottenworks.com/index.php/2009/11/11/ghost-adventures-pennhurst-state-school-and-hospital/comment-page-1/#comment-2620 RottenOne Wed, 09 Mar 2011 01:46:15 +0000 http://www.rottenworks.com/index.php/2009/11/11/ghost-adventures-pennhurst-state-school-and-hospital/#comment-2620 Wow Megan, you are just full of piss and vinegar and have a complete lack of understanding as to what the period (".") is used for in modern English. Yes, the Ghost Adventures team does their research - that is usually left to Jeff Belanger - as we see in the credits. And yes, they do go there based on rumors, and legends and stories and anything else that makes the place worthy of their investigation. They even take the evidence of other investigators. They take in lots of information before they set out to a place. For someone who knows nothing about the place you certainly have a lot of facts to spout. I agree with Sara, when it comes to place like this it's really hard to separate the fact from the fiction. What we think of torture today was seen as standard medicine decades ago. Electroshock therapy was normal. Cold baths and all sorts of "radical" treatments were the norm for mental illness since they had a very limited understanding of it by today's standards. Mental illness was a shameful thing and most people had no idea how to deal with it. I would say even discussing the subject was embarrassing to most people. Based on that I think you would have to read between the lines when dealing with this sort of subject matter. When it comes to places like this you can't believe everything you see and read. Records get lost, stories get handed down, events get misinterpreted. There is evidence to support that ill deeds were done to the patients (by today's yardstick) but taking every story as the gospel would be completely irresponsible. Nobody would ever exaggerate something just so they could get their 15 minutes of fame on a television show would they? Wow Megan, you are just full of piss and vinegar and have a complete lack of understanding as to what the period (“.”) is used for in modern English. Yes, the Ghost Adventures team does their research – that is usually left to Jeff Belanger – as we see in the credits. And yes, they do go there based on rumors, and legends and stories and anything else that makes the place worthy of their investigation. They even take the evidence of other investigators. They take in lots of information before they set out to a place.

For someone who knows nothing about the place you certainly have a lot of facts to spout. I agree with Sara, when it comes to place like this it’s really hard to separate the fact from the fiction. What we think of torture today was seen as standard medicine decades ago. Electroshock therapy was normal. Cold baths and all sorts of “radical” treatments were the norm for mental illness since they had a very limited understanding of it by today’s standards. Mental illness was a shameful thing and most people had no idea how to deal with it. I would say even discussing the subject was embarrassing to most people. Based on that I think you would have to read between the lines when dealing with this sort of subject matter.

When it comes to places like this you can’t believe everything you see and read. Records get lost, stories get handed down, events get misinterpreted. There is evidence to support that ill deeds were done to the patients (by today’s yardstick) but taking every story as the gospel would be completely irresponsible. Nobody would ever exaggerate something just so they could get their 15 minutes of fame on a television show would they?

]]> By: Megan http://www.rottenworks.com/index.php/2009/11/11/ghost-adventures-pennhurst-state-school-and-hospital/comment-page-1/#comment-2613 Megan Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:02:55 +0000 http://www.rottenworks.com/index.php/2009/11/11/ghost-adventures-pennhurst-state-school-and-hospital/#comment-2613 @Sara: Just so you know how the investigation part of it works they dont just make crap up they get the information from files from the places or people who have worked at the place or people who were there in the time of running it. They dont just start a show and say well we "heard this about this place so lets go". Tara the general manager for Ghost Adventures takes the time out to research each and every place they go to. Ever think maybe there were two schools and that Pennhurst was one of them? I dont know much about this place havent investigated it so I dont know the back story but lets just say they dont go into an investigation with a bunch of rumors. @Sara: Just so you know how the investigation part of it works they dont just make crap up they get the information from files from the places or people who have worked at the place or people who were there in the time of running it. They dont just start a show and say well we “heard this about this place so lets go”. Tara the general manager for Ghost Adventures takes the time out to research each and every place they go to. Ever think maybe there were two schools and that Pennhurst was one of them? I dont know much about this place havent investigated it so I dont know the back story but lets just say they dont go into an investigation with a bunch of rumors.

]]> By: Sara http://www.rottenworks.com/index.php/2009/11/11/ghost-adventures-pennhurst-state-school-and-hospital/comment-page-1/#comment-2602 Sara Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:00:32 +0000 http://www.rottenworks.com/index.php/2009/11/11/ghost-adventures-pennhurst-state-school-and-hospital/#comment-2602 I was extremely disappointed in the episode. In fact, the boys in the show got all their facts wrong: Pennhurst was a state school for the mentally disabled children in the past. I won't deny there may have been abuse there (then again, in that time it wasn't seen as abuse or torture but rather treatment...) I've had three generations of family who worked there as nurses and aides, but not ONE said they're EVER heard of the punishment of pulling out teeth if the children bit too many times. My family has not eve heard of the 'doctor' on the show, and what's more, the court issue was basically a rich family who dropped their son off there, and their son was dangerous and the care was not 'up to par' the level of care there was poor due to the fact that the state did not fund the school enough to provide for the overcrowd population. But what I think was the atrocity that occurred at this place was not the abuse, but the parents who dropped off their babies there- not because they were exceptional children, but because they did not want them. And what's worse is the whole fact that after the school and hospital was shut down, the residents were put under the care of the families- who did not even know the first thing on how to care for them. They still wander up and down the streets of spring city... Now that, to me, is sad. I was extremely disappointed in the episode. In fact, the boys in the show got all their facts wrong: Pennhurst was a state school for the mentally disabled children in the past. I won’t deny there may have been abuse there (then again, in that time it wasn’t seen as abuse or torture but rather treatment…) I’ve had three generations of family who worked there as nurses and aides, but not ONE said they’re EVER heard of the punishment of pulling out teeth if the children bit too many times. My family has not eve heard of the ‘doctor’ on the show, and what’s more, the court issue was basically a rich family who dropped their son off there, and their son was dangerous and the care was not ‘up to par’ the level of care there was poor due to the fact that the state did not fund the school enough to provide for the overcrowd population. But what I think was the atrocity that occurred at this place was not the abuse, but the parents who dropped off their babies there- not because they were exceptional children, but because they did not want them. And what’s worse is the whole fact that after the school and hospital was shut down, the residents were put under the care of the families- who did not even know the first thing on how to care for them. They still wander up and down the streets of spring city… Now that, to me, is sad.

]]> By: Sara http://www.rottenworks.com/index.php/2009/11/11/ghost-adventures-pennhurst-state-school-and-hospital/comment-page-1/#comment-2601 Sara Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:58:13 +0000 http://www.rottenworks.com/index.php/2009/11/11/ghost-adventures-pennhurst-state-school-and-hospital/#comment-2601 I was extremely disappointed in the episode. In fact, the boys in the show got all their facts wrong: Lemnitzer was a state school for the mentally disabled children in the past. I won't deny there may have been abuse there (then again, in that time it wasn't seen as abuse or torture but rather treatment...) I've had three generations of family who worked there as nurses and aides, but not ONE said they're EVER heard of the punishment of pulling out teeth if the children bit too many times. My family has not eve heard of the 'doctor' on the show, and what's more, the court issue was basically a rich family who dropped their son off there, and their son was dangerous and the care was not 'up to par' the level of care there was poor due to the fact that the state did not fund the school enough to provide for the overcrowd population. But what I think was the atrocity that occurred at this place was not the abuse, but the parents who dropped off their babies there- not because they were exceptional children, but because they did not want them. And what's worse is the whole fact that after the school and hospital was shut down, the residents where puts under the care of the families- who did not even know the first thing on how to care for them. They still wander up and down the streets of spring city... Now that, to me, is sad. I was extremely disappointed in the episode. In fact, the boys in the show got all their facts wrong: Lemnitzer was a state school for the mentally disabled children in the past. I won’t deny there may have been abuse there (then again, in that time it wasn’t seen as abuse or torture but rather treatment…) I’ve had three generations of family who worked there as nurses and aides, but not ONE said they’re EVER heard of the punishment of pulling out teeth if the children bit too many times. My family has not eve heard of the ‘doctor’ on the show, and what’s more, the court issue was basically a rich family who dropped their son off there, and their son was dangerous and the care was not ‘up to par’ the level of care there was poor due to the fact that the state did not fund the school enough to provide for the overcrowd population. But what I think was the atrocity that occurred at this place was not the abuse, but the parents who dropped off their babies there- not because they were exceptional children, but because they did not want them. And what’s worse is the whole fact that after the school and hospital was shut down, the residents where puts under the care of the families- who did not even know the first thing on how to care for them. They still wander up and down the streets of spring city… Now that, to me, is sad.

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