Here is another interview with Keith in regards to his house which has been dubbed the Demon House of Seattle. It’s presented by ParanormalZoneTV, and comes well after the investigation by Zak and Ghost Adventures. Keith is joined by Karissa, but it’s best to gloss over her portion of the program as she’s not helping to give credence and credibility to the claims.
Keith does bring up valid points about the Ghost Adventures investigation. First, the slant of the show was to make it seem like Tina was responsible for the events in the house. Second, anyone who dismisses or agrees with paranormal activity simply because of Zak needs to check themselves. Let’s just take a step back for a moment. Zak is in no way a scientist or even using scientific methods. He is a former DJ who paired up with a photographer to create his show. He claims to have the powers of a sensitive, powers he developed over his career.
His job is to entertain, to dramatize, to generate interest, to gain an audience and to get renewed for another season. His truth is relative and if a haunting sells, that’s what you’re going to see. And if no haunting sells, that’s what you’re going to see.
From that angle, anyone who says Zak did a great job by discrediting this house or that it only improves his credibility as an investigator is buying into the marketing machine.
To that end, let’s have a look at the evidence that Keith has on file. First of all, everything we see is after the fact. There are pictures of his office in disarray, symbols and numbers painted on the wall, kitchen drawers open, scissors and cross shoved into the wall, a burned bible and chairs put on top of tables. However, there is nothing showing these events in progress. There is no physical evidence of phones being thrown, of plants levitating, or numbers being drawn through inhuman means.
The rebuttal is that the spirit energy is capable of draining the cameras, cutting off the power, blanking out the video so it’s action can’t be seen and all sorts of other trickery to hide it’s methods.
Even though the 666 that we saw in the final cut of Ghost Adventures was one of several messages that were left on the same door, it was never able to be captured. Keith would get a message, paint the door, then another would appear in the same place. This happened several times, in the same place, but couldn’t be captured.
Karissa claims that when she first entered the house, her phone was thrown. The same thing happened to the UK investigators. It happened a third time when someone else came to investigate the house. The expected behavior when you came over to the house was to have your phone thrown, but yet it can’t be captured.
Fair enough, maybe the cameras don’t always work, but the investigators are able to record everyone walking around their sensors after they’ve gone off. Keith is able to detect motion in his house and get an email, but nothing is capable of capturing a single image of these events taking place.
It’s stated hundreds of EVPs have been captured. Ok, fair enough, that could be worth something, however, simply because you capture a voice doesn’t mean it’s from beyond the grave. A captured voice alone is not proof of the paranormal. A voice on a recorder can be duplicated in hundreds of different ways. Who’s to say that voice isn’t coming from outside? Who’s to say it’s not from a radio or television? Who’s to say it’s not being picked as interference from another device? Who’s to say it’s not a fragment from a baby monitor or phone call?
If you knew nothing of the paranormal claims and were shown the evidence, you would immediately think Keith is the victim of some terrible and senseless acts of vandalism. You would believe you were being shown photos for an insurance claim. However, showing pictures of open kitchen cabinets is not proof of the paranormal. Showing pictures of a broken chair on a desk is not evidence of the paranormal. Even a picture of a burnt bible is nothing more than evidence of a ruined bible.
One thing that I did find off about the interview, is Keith had a small fire break out in the house. I believe a poster or something similar caught on fire while he was getting ready for work. He’s unable to get out of the house because he couldn’t open the door. Later, Keith says the entities in the house aren’t malicious and he has nothing to worry about. I find that to be an odd contradiction if I heard it correctly.
I have no idea what’s going on in Keith’s house because clearly I’m not there and haven’t experienced it. However, the over the top claims and the evidence presented don’t match up. With the constant level of activity going on and with the technology available, you would expect quite a bit more in the way of tangible or visible evidence.
Bob Cranmer has the same situation on his hands. He has a house plagued with activity, like CDs being thrown with such force they shatter. It happens over and over again, yet there is nothing that proves these events actually took place, only the aftermath. Sure, he wrote stuff down in his journal, he took notes, he has pictures, but since this has gone on for years, it all seems pretty inconclusive. He did get a book out of the deal with plenty of people decrying the eternal battle between good and evil.
Comments have been made that the paranormal is like lightning and you can’t capture lighting. Um, yes you can.
The point being, anyone can run around their house, open drawers, throw plants on the floor, put chairs on the desk, do as they like with the crucifix, take pictures and declare the paranormal. People can run around in the dark, scratch themselves and declare they were touch by a demon. That doesn’t make it so.
Have a look and decide for yourself.
Demons in Seattle – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfH6mIKg63E
Other Articles of Interest:
- Ghost Adventures – Demons in Seattle – S10E10
- Deep South Paranormal – Dead on the Bayou – S01E06 – Season Finale
- Ghost Hunters International – Quarantine Station
- Haunted Collector – Farm Stalker and Echo Club Spirits – S03E01
- Deep South Paranormal – Til Death Do Us Part – S01E02
- Ghost Lab – Catfish Plantation and Hotel Lawrence
- Paranormal Lockdown – Kreischer Mansion – S01E06
- Ghost Adventures – The Viper Room – S14E10
- Ghost Adventures – Stone Lion Inn – S14E01
- Deep South Paranormal – The Good the Bad and the Ghostly – S01E05
A comment was left about Bob Cranmer and The Demon of Brownsville Rd, but that name isn’t familiar, so I decided to look it up. Turns out the book chronicles Bob’s dealing with dark forces inside his home. At first glance it makes me think of Amityville.
I don’t have a copy of his book, but I was able to find a few interviews. I have to admit, I’m a bit skeptical for a variety of reasons, but the phrase, "my credibility as a politician" took me by surprise. Politicians are showman and have to market themselves. They tell people what they want to hear to get elected. That’s not a solid foundation for, "my story is real".
That slight prejudice aside, what details does Bob offer during his interviews?
Bob is pretty tight lipped, but a few details manage to come out, but they sound a bit cliche. The previous owners were eager to sell and took the first offer. There is a Native American connection and "possible" curse and bodies buried under the front lawn. The house may have been used as a clinic for illegal abortions. Lots of mood swings, behavior problems, depression and a nervous breakdown.
We also have broken rosary, broken crucifix, a child trying to stop the priest from blessing the house, pictures taken off the wall and furniture moved.
When asked for some specifics, more often than not, Bob responds with phrases like, "well, when you read my book", or, "it’s in the book", or "I don’t want to give too much away". Translation – I don’t want to miss out on sales.
To jump ahead, Bob wages war against "Evil". The details are sketchy, but some of it involves playing the movie, Passion of the Christ, 24 hours a day. That would drive anyone out.
In the end, they triumph and Bob gets his troubled son to build a Facebook page to promote his book. Now there’s something parents should follow, instead of getting mad at your kids for all the crap they drag you through – the sleepless nights, the drugs, the partying, the mood swings, the chaos, the wasted money – spin a yarn about how Evil caused it all and put up a Facebook page. Money can smooth over a lot of family issues.
But Bob isn’t in it for the money even though he mentions stores are sold out, he’s working with production companies about TV shows and maybe movie discussions. His story about God and the battle between good and evil needs to be told. This is the story of our age!
Keep in mind though, this isn’t a horror story or paranormal investigation. Even though he’s working the paranormal circuit, it’s a story about God.
It’s hard to get behind the "evil" angle when there are just too many "earthbound" explanations not to mention the hard sell. The more you say, "it’s in the book" the more capitalist you sound. If it’s just about telling the story, put out a free Kindle book.
At any rate, has anyone read this book? Comments to offer? I’m not against it or Bob, but I’m awfully suspect of a story that sounds like a blend of Amityville and Poltergeist.
Links to the interviews can be found below:
https://player.fm/series/beyond-the-edge-radio/1252015-bob-cranmer-and-the-demon-of-brownsville-rd – jump to 40 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJPaPFVGx5g – Jump to 38:00 minutes
And a couple of interesting reads by those who don’t quite agree with the claims:
Other Articles of Interest:
- Demon of Brownsville Rd by Bob Cranmer – Review
- The Devil in White City
- Dark World: Into the Shadows with the Lead Investigator of The Ghost Adventures Crew
- Haunted History Season 1, Ep. 3 "Murder Castle"
- Ghost Adventures – Fear Factory – S09E05
- The Dead Files – Terror in the Shadows – S01E03
- Demon of Brownsville Rd by Bob Cranmer–A few thoughts on the matter
- The Demon House of Seattle – Revisit
- The Kehoe House – Tragic Scene, Funeral Home, Bed and Breakfast
- Ghost Hunters Halloween Special 2009 – It’s On!
For this episode Chad and John head to Sykesville, Maryland to visit Springfield State Hospital. It is yet another tragic tale of a facility set up to treat mental illness that ends up with overcrowding and stories of patients locked up for hours and perhaps days on end. The conditions reached a breaking point and the hospital was ultimately shut down. Now there are tales of spirit energy and patients that still roam the halls. Work crews hears hear moaning, while other feel a presence. The building has been abandoned for years so there are plenty of stories circulating around.
As they speak to Ivy, who knows an awful lot about a building she’s never been inside of, they hear stories of abuse and isolation and that some patients were left down in the steam tunnels below the building. As Chad and John look over the place, Chad is once again inflicted with pain from some unseen force. This happened in the first episode as well and they feel the encounter has left a scratch. They also take a quick peek down in the steam and tunnels and I’ll be damned if it doesn’t look like they built rooms down there. What the hell went on in this place? Did they seriously stick patients with mental disorders in tiny little rooms with dirt floor where they probably couldn’t even stand up?
There property also has it’s own cemetery, but sadly, the patients were simply buried. There are no markers to list their names. The best they got were numbers. That’s no way to be remembered.
John goes first on his solo investigation and hears knocks and what he thinks are moans. As I’ve said so many times, this is an old, rotting building, there are going to be bangs as the place settles over night. There could easily be moans as pipes expand and contract or doors creak on their hinges or birds settle for the night. It’s best to look for the simplest answer, not try to bend sounds to be the paranormal.
Chad is up next and right from the start he is out of his mind with fright. Every sound makes him jump out of his skin. Like before he near the point of hysterics as the walks around the building. This goes far beyond just being nervous, this almost the point of panic. In this state, every noise is going to sound like the devil reaching out to get you. You’re clearly going to see and hear things in the worst possible way. This really isn’t a good way to approach investigating the paranormal. And compared to John’s rather cool demeanor as he walks around the complex, it makes Chad seem ever more hysterical.
When it comes to evidence there are some odd sounds, but who knows if those are voices. The camera goes out in Ward W for both Chad and John. They interpret this as spirits building up energy to manifest. And that manifestation comes in the form of some black mass moving in front of one of the laser lights they have set up. People are doing some wacky things with Kinect devices. Who knows what we have here. I suppose you could say there is a figure moving between the dots, but to me it’s not really all that compelling. To be honest, there has been so much trickery and Tom foolery associated with these shows, that could just as easily be one of their crew wandering around. I’m gonna a bit more than a blocked out dot.
So the question remains, does asylum with it’s checkered past and abused constitute a location holding a portal where spirit energy can pass from one world to the next? I didn’t think this place was all that active. Oh, yes, it’s creepy as can be, but just because it looks the part doesn’t mean it’s haunted. I wonder how much Ivy and the start of Maryland are selling this place for? They’re brick buildings so it seems like you could do something with them. Fix it up and it would be a sweet haunted attraction. Oh wait, can’t do that. All that negative energy would make it haunted. Just ask Zak.
Other Articles of Interest:
- Ghost Stalkers – Farrar School – S01E06
- Ghost Adventures – Lechtworth Village – S05E06
- Ghost Stalkers – Holmesburg Prison – S01E04
- Ghost Stalkers – Whisperers Estate – S01E01
- Ghost Stalkers – Wheatlands Plantation – S01E05
- Paranormal Lockdown – Randolph County Infirmary
- Ghost Adventures – Heritage Junction – S09E06
- Ghost Adventures – Pennhurst State School and Hospital
- Ghost Adventures – Dakotas Sanatorium of Death – S13E12
- Ghost Adventures – Mackay Mansion – S13E02
For this episode the Tennessee Wraith Chasers (TWC) head off to Maysville, Kentucky to investigate the Hayswood Infirmary, also known as the Hayswood Hospital. Like so many other medical facilities of it’s time, the hospital was understaffed and under funded to handle the volume of patients that passed through it’s doors. It was in full swing during WWI and WWII and saw it’s fair share of men suffering from Shellshock or PTSD as we know it today. Unfortunately, the doctors were scarce and medication even more so. The pain medication had to be rationed and most of the wounded suffered through days and weeks of pain. It sounds like a terrible place and you’d be better off it you never got wheeled through the doors.
The place is a wreck now, with caved in ceilings, broken windows and debris littering just about every square foot of the place. The building comes with it’s own bit of legend known as they Hayswood Ghost. Footage was taken on the grounds looking up into a window where a face can be seen coming towards the window then darting back into the darkness. Many claim this to be positive footage of an apparition freely roaming the decrepit building. Others aren’t so convinced. From the absolutely pixelated footage, it’s hard to make out anything.
But the TWC is once again on a quest to identify a paranormal hotspot and set a trap to see if they can contain the energy from the spirit world. After making their way through the multiple floors they investigate a couple of key areas. One is the morgue where they crawl into the coolers to see if there is any activity, which turns out to be quite uneventful albeit nerve racking. The other is the Veteran’s Recovery area where they have constructed a massive Spirit Board in an attempt to communicate. I’m not quite sure how the spirits are supposed to use that board, but their K2 meters supposedly register energy and contact in that area. I really wish someone would just sit down and try to use one like they did in the old days. A good old fashioned séance would be awesome!
At first glance the "trap" they’ve devised appears to be a fish tank with a limestone rock in a mason jar. At second glance, it’s a fish tank with mason jar and a limestone rock. There is a hint of legitimacy in so far as many people believe that water helps to conduct spirit energy and limestone is able to store spirit energy. Water has been brought up numerous times in investigations such as those relating to boats and mills and limestone is supposed to be the cause of the events that take place at the Stanley Hotel in Colorado. The idea here is that they will lead a spirit to the water and then electrify it so the energy is trapped in the limestone.
Well, we all know water is a conductor as are certain types of rocks, so combining electricity, water and an abandoned building is absolutely safe. What could possibly go wrong?
So the team makes contact and then lures their spirit to water. They have meters on the tank that go berserk as they coax the spirit on. There’s a whole of hollering and excitement as they feel they contained a spirit in the limestone. So they pack up the whole thing and check out their findings inside their Faraday cage. Did they nab a spirit?
The reading prove elusive and like Charlie Brown at Halloween all it appears they got was a rock. There are no signs they’ve captured any energy from this outing. From all the activity they got from their Mel Meters and K2 devices they’re quite convinced there is a ton of activity out there, but they weren’t able to bring it home with them.
Additionally, they gave the Hayswood Ghost footage a once over and feel the footage is bogus and is not evidence of the supernatural. In their minds it appears to be CGI or at least staged in some way. I’m going to have to agree with them on that one. The face appears too easy to fake, the picture far too grainy and overall it appears to be the work of pranksters. Oddly, the footage was taken by a friend of those who posted it on the Internet, but they’re not saying where it came from only they believe it to be the real deal. Who knows what we have here, but I’m still going to side with a hoax. Looks like someone trying to start their own legend for the Hayswood Infirmary.
But anyway, another trap was set, but it failed to harness the energy of the spirit world. We did get to see a very interesting location, yet another I wasn’t aware of, so that’s not a bad thing. If you want to get a bit more information and see some interesting pictures of both the building and the inside, have a look at the link below from AbandonedOnline.
I’m still not sure if I like this show or not. They’ve presented 3 very interesting places that are new to me so that’s great, but these inventions of theirs are leaving me scratching my head. I’m all for trying to capture this energy, but I’m not sure capacitors, solar cells, fish tanks and limestone are going to get the job done. I’m not sure what will, but doesn’t appear to be a step in the right direction.
Other Articles of Interest:
- Ghost Asylum S01E02 – Kuhn State Hospital
- Ghost Asylum – Ironton Psychiatric Hospital – S01E05
- Ghost Asylum – St Vincent’s Mental Asylum – S01E04
- Ghost Asylum – Missouri State Penitentiary – S03E04
- Ghost Adventures – Tuolumne Hospital – S08E03
- Ghost Adventures – Linda Vista Hospital
- Ghost Asylum – Old South Pittsburg Hospital – S03E02
- Ghost Asylum S01E01
- Ghost Asylum – Old Cannon Hospital – S01E06
- Ghost Asylum – Brushy Mountain State Penitentiary